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« on: April 06, 2006, 04:43:57 PM » |
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Does anyone have recommendations for a wall hammer I can buy currently?
I can find:
Black Diamond Omega Pacific Eagle
Whats the best bet in your opinion?
edit - I bought a BD hammer. it should get here soon
Steve
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syrinx
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« Reply #1 on: April 06, 2006, 05:21:42 PM » |
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I have the omega. It was cheap and I don't nail a lot. It has been fine so far. I hear the BD's are better, but have no personal experience. Do a search over at ST, I know there have been sereral threads on this there.
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mungeclimber
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« Reply #2 on: April 06, 2006, 05:51:41 PM » |
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There is one in the Yosemite mtn shop that I wasn't familiar with, but it looked interesting. Maybe Werner or someone local can post up the beta if that's a different one.
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« Reply #3 on: April 06, 2006, 06:09:55 PM » |
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Yeah, I saw one yesterday at Sports Chalet that I had never seen before. It was slightly smaller/lighter than the BD or OP and had a funky shaped spike/pick.
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« Reply #4 on: April 07, 2006, 12:33:00 AM » |
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I use the BD. I've never swung a different wall hammer, so I have nothing to compare it to. I've bwwn happy with it. I've had it 10 years and it's going strong. The only dumb thing I did was while placing a bolt I swung and hit the webbing leash and slashed it in half. Easy fix though, and at least I didn't loose the hammer.
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iron man
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« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2006, 06:34:41 AM » |
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I use a regular hard wear store construction hammer with a metal handle. Wood and fiberglass handles damage verry easly.
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I have been climbing for my whole life. I never really knew about rock climbing untill 5 years ago. I always climb trees. I had never even seen any cliffs untill 3 years ago I am 25 I started climbing in a gym.
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syrinx
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« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2006, 06:50:29 AM » |
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iron: How do you clean gear with your hammer? Where do you hook the funkness?
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iron man
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« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2006, 07:23:11 AM » |
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Don't know. First time.
Hammer up and clip a medium length sling(3 feet)to the pin then wrap around wrist and yank away from the wall. Or keep hammering up to create a scar for micro pro. If you hammer down it just creates a use less scar.
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2006, 01:34:53 PM » |
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Sounds like your wrist will get sore pretty quick with that method. Couldn't you tie some webbing around the head/handle section as an alternative to the funkness?
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iron man
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« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2006, 06:21:14 AM » |
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Yes. Be carefull to get the right hammer or else funknessing will throw the head off into space.
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I have been climbing for my whole life. I never really knew about rock climbing untill 5 years ago. I always climb trees. I had never even seen any cliffs untill 3 years ago I am 25 I started climbing in a gym.
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« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2006, 03:27:07 PM » |
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iron man- you really need to rethink your style, you are going to cause much more scaring to existing routes the way your doing it. get a real wall hammer and a real funkness...
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iron man
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« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2006, 01:51:05 AM » |
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I got the info from john mindendorf and john long.
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iron man
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2006, 04:13:57 AM » |
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ok so I post that I got the info from the owner of this web sight and then there is no disagrement. Before I was automaticly wrong!
Make up your mind man! Maby you need to re think your hobbies.
I like to graffiti and I would prefer a simple small stopper rather then a fucking nail!
Next time try giving advice to some one who asks for it!
I don't need your dam help anyway!
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2006, 05:03:46 AM » |
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You should get a fucking metal hammer. Then tie a fucking sling to the son of a bitch with a really strong not and then clip the fucking caribiner to the god dam sling. Next beat in an upwards motion untill you have a 1/2 inch slot then place a fucking wired 10kn stopper/nut then 6 inches above that do it agin then agin then agin. After you got a bunch of nuts. You should equlize it. Then climb on freely or climb with those fucking aid pieces.
Even better get a chisel and chisel your name up on the wall so you got proof that you were there. Then you will be famous. People will try to talk you out of it. They will say anything that they can to stop you. Fuck that man just do it. Spray paint, chisel, drill whatever makes you happy. I don't give a shit about a stupid fucking rock. I never did. I like climbing. I like being challenged and a little graffity and chiseling never stopped me.
Fight for your right to party!
Hueco tanks is full of bloody paintings on the boulders from pussys. Its like the women go camping on there peorid. Full of stupid rules. Just jump the fence. Watch out for the snakes they are rattlers with a deadly bite. Watch out for rebels, watch out for cops, watch for rangers. Then you can't make no dam friends because then sombody always wants to tell you how it goes or how it is. Stay away from me to.
I personaly like free climbing one pitch routs that have easy ancor access. Walk to the top set anchors,hang rope, then walk to the bottom. Booyaka!!! You got your climb set up fool proof! You can try those tuff climbs this way.
I do understand the monotiny of allways doing the same thing. So maby free climbing is getting boring to you. If this is the case then try doing some illegal graffity up on a private spot that you have discovered. It is diffucult to do good graffity. So you might waste some cans of paint but it wont matter because you can just paint more. I like want to do huge paintings on walls across the world. but I am a poor muther fucker. I can't afford to buy 100 dollars of spray paint. I will one day so rock on!
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2006, 08:41:17 AM » |
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I'm confused.
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« Reply #15 on: April 24, 2006, 01:12:23 PM » |
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hrm, troll possibility.
let it ride for now
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« Reply #16 on: April 24, 2006, 02:35:28 PM » |
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Troll or Fool? I don't know which.
I didn't read past the second line of ironmans last post.
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« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2006, 12:59:16 PM » |
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time for whack-a-mole.
Iron man = fvcking idiot.
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French free is aid climbing too, I swear.
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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2006, 02:58:29 PM » |
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Ironman- I dont care what you say you are a fool and shouldnt bother wall climbing, you wont last long with your nail hammer and slings. fuckin douche.
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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2006, 05:32:20 PM » |
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i was kinda checking out that kong eagle hammer, i kinda like it. anybody actually heft one?
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« Reply #20 on: May 17, 2006, 02:03:19 PM » |
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Anyone got a Forrest Molinjar?
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French free is aid climbing too, I swear.
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« Reply #21 on: May 17, 2006, 03:29:17 PM » |
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I have and old old BD Yosemite hammer, a new BD Yosemite hammer, a OP hammer and an old Salewa ice hammer modified into a piton hammer ( the ice pick was ground down ).
The old BD hammer is great for long approaches but is a little light. The new BD hammer is a good hammer with a good swing. The OP hammer is 1/2 pound heavier than the newer BD hammer. Good for drilling bolts and short approaches. I prefer the BD hammer. The Salewa is good for a loaner...............
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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2006, 02:16:28 PM » |
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I'm sittin on top of the world.
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2006, 02:50:31 PM » |
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What the hell does this have to do with hammers? SyrinxI'm sittin on top of the world.
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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2006, 01:05:33 AM » |
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nothing!!!!!
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« Reply #25 on: June 09, 2006, 04:05:59 PM » |
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I own both the Kong Eagle and a Forest Wall Hammer.
I'st let me say (disclaimer) that Ron Olevesky has it right on the money. Why he's the only canary in the coal mine mystifies me though. Just make a F*cken "constructive" scar and the next 10000 people can use a friggan nut. Do the usual bang bang slam slam with pins and the next 1000 can use pins as it gradually scars and degrades the rock. Eventually it will be a bolt ladder.
Lots of you Yos brothers have climbed Serenity and know this to be true. Now it's showing up on more remote granite like the Prow and Shield headwall. Your kids will not be nailing on the prow. The very simple question is, do you want them to be nutting or clipping the bolt ladder which will replace the f*ed up crack?
For some reason, the clean revolution passed by the aid climbers. I'd like to see clean aid walls noted. IMO the FA - Clean, (lets call it FAC) should be noted in magazines and books right along with free ascents and FA's.
thats my opinion.
BTW, Iron man had the first line correct, perhaps a weeeee little wine and smoke has semi-obscured part of his message.
Euroford: that Eagle Hammer is great. Bridwell allegedly designed it, which might explain his signature on the side of it. Be aware that they make a light version and a heavy version, I have the heavy version and havn't swung the light version.
For hard nailing, guys like Jim Madson and Kim Schmidtz had big assed hammers for a reason. The trade off is that those boys were damn strong in the forearms, as your results may vary, the heft may be way excessive on the big version for us normal folks. It took me a while to get use to it, but I like it now.
The Forest is good as well, slightly lighter, with a fiberglass handle. I loaned mine out for a month to a friend to go to Yos and he kept it for 8 years. Came back all beat up and I had to pry it out from his still clenched hands.
I'd check out both Kongs. Solid hammers. They have a wood shaft, cheaper than a BD, and good feel. FYI, I sealed the top of mine with polyurethane so that moisture wouldn't swell the wood and F* it up, recommend the same to you.
There, call me an ass about the nailing thing higher up, but you all know it's the truth.
BTW, Petzl and Salewa make light hammers you should consider if you are going on what is primarily long free routes with some occasional nailing in between, otherwise I'd avoid them.
Later,
Bill
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« Reply #26 on: June 20, 2006, 01:25:31 PM » |
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Camp Brenta on loan. Don't have a comparison but gets stuff done
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« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2006, 03:07:40 PM » |
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I never use a hammer while climbing! I climb some vertical crimpy cliffs. with over hanging roofs. I never have cliped a nail. I saw one once at a cliff close to a roof crack I was scared to clip it. I always used different type gear.
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« Reply #28 on: August 10, 2006, 01:36:06 AM » |
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not for nothin, but the word troll comes to mind.
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